Well Vloggerheads.com got off to a good start — with 2000 users, 8000 videos and good launch press, but it seems the Renetto-inspired site is is now falling on the charts (see source) behind UTubeDrama, a blog by anonymous critics. In fact, this source shows the third highest source for traffic for Vloggerheads as UTubeDrama.
Still, Alexa shows Vloggerheads.com with a site ranking of 156K, which is higher than this blog. And someone at Vloggerheads decided to “spotlight” the post comparing Vloggerheads to UTubeDrama (sourced to Compete.com by JaxCAST), so the site hasn’t lost its self-deprecating humor.
I gotta give it to Paul et al for persistence. Paul’s nearly 96 videos on Vloggerheads have a collective view count of less than one single video he posted on YouTube (where he saves Starbucks from a drunk guy with pants down to his feet… the drunk guy had his pants down, that is).
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More like “Baldheads”, instead of Vloggerheads! HAHAHAHAHAHA
Get it? I said that because everybody on that website looks like Mikma, and ALL OF THEM ARE BALD! I’m too much.
^ ha! I knew there was a reason I liked this kid!
…and I say that with a full lustrous thick head of hair.
My Vloggerheads experience video is here -> -http://blip.tv/file/1653667 be sure and read the description…
Look E. Hero you got a beef with Renetto – fine, but to be brutally honest; I’m gonna guess and wager it’s a good one, no one here gives a shit!
What pisses me off is you flooded this blog with tons of crap; which will probably be deleted, took on the roll of a perverted pornographic poser and insulted the host and his family because you got issues that mean nothing compared to the troubles in the world. You dragged your ass across the face of this blog like a dog with worms on a rug.
Let me give you a little piece of advice and you can shit on it, as your custom, if you want.
What you should have done is posted, “I hate Renetto and here’s why!” and then been on your merry way, OR engage in like banter traditional to the natives.
What you’ve accomplished, however, was to prove you’re a liar and cheat thus, abolishing all possible credibility on your part, you made Renetto look like the good guy, and on top of all that, ya promoted his site!
Well, good for you, I hope you’re proud!
now please, shoo!
@52
“Lord of The Baldheaded Mikma Clones”: a treatise discussing how culture created by man always fails, especially when predicated upon the false notion that technology is egalitarian and trustworthy, by Jolie Blond.
Who are all of you and why have you taken over our nice little blog?
BTW, long posts are only allowed if you name is jischinger.
@6: I’m the only one around here that is allowed to teach the intricacies of the English language to this rowdy bunch.
Oh, and brindle: I am also an atheist, yet I still believe in sukatra almighty.
Hahaha… E.Hero? Are you kidding me? Please Get Professional HELP!
OMG! Nutcheese…touch my nipple please. This blog is making me have an anxiety attack!
Sukatra…curse one of these newbies out please!
MDJ…how you’re momma? =)
@57 Ditto!
Oh goody, drama.
The problem with haters is that they claim they “just want to be treated fairly”, but they don’t act out in a fair manner. They pretend to be other legitimate users. They misbehave. The bottom line is if they were willing to act like the rest of the adults in society, they’d be treated like adults.
If you want to be a jerk, that’s fine. Frankly, I enjoy reading the stuff at critic/hate sites-it amuses me to no end. But be a man, don’t hide behind anonymous usernames or imitate other respected users. Stand behind your comments. Be a real live grownup.
Ah, who am I kidding? By just asking these guys to act like adults, I guarantee you half a dozen of ‘em or more will act up just to be funny.
Hey Jan, shoot me a message by email, or at the forums. I have a question I can’t ask in public.
I like butter
Ugh. Too many words…
It’s simple really:
Nobody likes Renetto
Everybody likes Nalts
YouTube is still cool
Vloggerheads is gay
So, are we famous now or what?
And is E. Hero any relation to Ann Hero? Just curious.
And to the nitwit … above me. YouTube is cool? No shit… Really? You actually believe that? Wild man, where can I get some of what the hell you’re smoking?
Hey, it’s still cool to us nitwits. And we make up 99% of the world. Not everyone can be a part of teh internet intelligentsia like you amazing people.
It’s simple really:
Nobody likes Renetto
Everybody likes Nalts
YouTube is still cool
Vloggerheads is gay
Absolutely agree
It’s so refreshing to read a series of posts where I’m NOT the one who’s gone off their meds.
@59
Momma’s not drinking, drugging, stabbing me in the back, setting anything on fire, poisoning the dog or hallucinating about Lewanda. And my sister’s passed out in her trailer with her car broke down out in the piney woods. It’s a good day, jason.
sukatra, you’re absolutely somber in comparison to some of these posters! LOL
YouTube is a site. Vloggerheads is a site. They’re both just a collection of 1’s and 0’s, organized in such a way that clever individuals can leverage them for whatever purposes they desire. The sites in themselves don’t make them worth going to. In each case, it’s the people at the sites.
Vloggerheads has fewer people. The result is that you can share your thoughts with a more intimate crowd, and get to know those in the online community as a whole better.
Youtube is a widely popular site. Simply stated, if you want your videos to have the broadest possible market you need to put them on YouTube.
Each site is a great site in it’s own respects. The structure of YouTube was never meant to specifically be a vlogging site. Vloggerheads appeals to a niche market. People need to stop saying one site is any better than the other. It’s apples to oranges. Okay, maybe apples to pears, but they’re still plenty different. Just remember: Everybody’s different. No two people are not on fire. (click)
I Love Vloggerheads !!! Period. It is much more a Community.
That is all.
Vloggerheads really failed to deliver on all its election promises, it ended up as a haven for ever permabanned Youtube “Hater” TROLL, stalker, predator & harassment monger and the admins danced to their tunes, played along with their “Flagging” games and effectively ended up do this to the detriment of the very individuals who were brave enough to stand up to these cyber-terrorists and tackle them head-on
It is a great shame because I really wanted it to succeed, even though I’m synical about the term “Community” when used in an online, social media context , I believe it to be oxymoronic and a naive underestimation of the solitary pursuit that Vlogging is, not to mention the inherrent selfishness of human nature
Fair enough it was a much more personal and intimate place to have online dialogue than a mass market media platform such as youtube, but given that it became the playground of hatemongers & trolls that intimacy only served to MAGNIFY the power of their hate
It seems as if with the best intentions in the world some disgruntled Youtubers set out to reinventthe wheel, what they ended up with was a less rounded wheel
What The Hell is going on in this comments section ?!
This comments section reads like unhealthy name calling rather than debate.
Why? Drama-makers from YouTube, who couldn’t penetrate the vloggerheads community with their bullcrap are pissed and blame VH, when maybe the problem is just the desire for Drama and pain.
Sure Vloggerheads resorts to this kind of dialogue occasionaly, but the community is generally fairly healthy
They can barely spell community over at YouTube if you look a lot of the comments left on videos.
Listen, as toy you’re original blog mate. They are very different sites, and really difficult to compare for that reason. In its current state on the Ning platform i do think Vloggerheads is limited, but what it offers is very appealing to many people, as a few of my VH colleagues have mentioned. COMMUNITY is what its all about. As it has only two one navigation pages for videos, as the community grows it will become almost impossible to keep up with all the vlogs, so you will keep an eye out for names you know, and stick to mostly their videos, discerning those not watched to leave, thus growth may stagnate. But the concept and the community have me a loyal lifer over at VH.
The only real problem I see is in keeping the site open we get known haters there, who cause drama but can not be disciplined unless they break certain rules, and while they craftily sidestep those rules people get hurt. So rather than risking coming off as unfair they let them continue to cause pain and end up risking, and losing multiple members, when if they took the initial risk of ‘playing god’ so to speak. They would have only lost the 1 troublemaker.
You know when I first looked at the comment section and saw the essay replies I thought it was ridiculous, But i have proved myself to be quite Hypocritical.
lol, I Truly am a Vloggerhead
@36- Nutcheese- reading your list of the WVFF ground rules CRACKS me up. My favorite- we don’t read or care about what Kevin says. THat must TOTALLY perplex infrequent visitors. Let’s see- Kevin is talking about the new models of advertising in 2010. The comments are about whether Renetto or Trevor could win a wedgie contest. Not getting it.
I’m probably one of the few VH members commenting here who actually reads this blog (via RSS feed) on a regular basis. I’ve never read the comments section, though (doesn’t show up on my reader).
So I’m chiming in here because it’s hard to believe intelligent folks still see the word “community” as having the same meaning online as it does offline. It obviously contains different elements. It’s merely referred to as the feeling or the atmosphere of an online “place”. It’s a micro-culture you feel a part of for whatever reason- nothing more, nothing less. It’s also what you make of it and can, indeed, spill into your offline community (in the traditional sense) as it has my own.
As for comparing YouTube with Vloggerheads- that, too, is ridiculous to me. I’m a member of both, and both fill different needs for me and they do it well. They both have upsides and downsides to them but they’re different in this respect: one is the oldest and biggest show while the other is the beginning of something new, entirely. I’m not active at YT because all the ads there kill the buzz. That’s about it.
I see VH as the first of many video-sharing sites that have and will continue to pop up that are striving to be specialized in some way. I’m glad to be a part of what I see is a newly-dynamic landscape.
Vloggerheads are home-grown video makers, nothing more than that. Even the admin are video-makers. THAT is the appeal for me and for a lot of others. You can’t say that’s the case for YouTube.
I don’t feel a need to say one is better than the other, though (even though I help to moderate VH). Some are city-folk, some are not, but that doesn’t make the city any less useful or exciting to me.
I can see how VH feels clique-ish or scary to new members because we’re all playing around with one another (much like the usual members of this board are doing, playfully treating the first-timers as “outsiders” who don’t know the rules or the players) but some VH newbies manage to jump right into the mix and they’re welcomed for it.
And if some kind of drama flares up, it’s easy to assume whatever’s happening on the front page is the norm. That kind of stuff lasts for about two days. That’s it… The community there has a way of leveling things out using humor or disregard. Da Vloggerhood goes on as usual.
But again, it’s not like it’s better. It’s just different and it suits MY individual needs more than it does the other large video-sharing sites.
That’s about it, but thanks for reading my long-ass comment, which apparently the micro-community here at this commenting section frowns upon. Oh, well- it’s official. I suck. ;o) You guys probably don’t like emoticons, either…:oP
@ 74 Syd… you don’t read the comments?!?! You got it backwards… most of us don’t read the blog. In fact I didn’t even bother to read this blog entry, but I’ve commented a few times.
It’s time we get back to basics here. Let me review. I explained it in my comment #36. “Rule # 1- On this blog we don’t comment on what Kevin writes… we just tend to talk about our morning poop. Not poop as in our morning events, rather our poop as in the dump we just took in the toilet this morning.”
Let me get things back on track for you all. I just took a lovely shit. The fiber in my diet is just right and so there was almost no pushing involved. My colon is feeling great right about now. (I’m kind of bragging here because I know Kevin is having a tough time shitting since he’s on all those pain pills)
@ 74,36 Ah, thanks for the clarity, NutCheese. “Talkin’ shit”- that’s like, a literal thing here. Got it. Glad everything’s comin’ out okay.
@ God- please help Nalts shit.
@Syd, you’re really a good person, actually using prayer to help Kevin easily move his impacted bowels.
WTF? All my Vloggerheads friends discover this little corner of the internet when I’m not paying attention.
Glad to see you back at it Kevin
Syd doesn’t read the comments? That’s the best part of this blog!
Wait, there’s a blog here? Oh right, that’s all those words at the top of these comment pages, right?
Oh, and like I said before, only jischinger is allowed long posts.
Everyone else should keep to 50 words or less.
No one here reads what Kevin writes, and most of us won’t read long comments.
And don’t even THINK about misspelling anything, or using poor grammar; I have this thing with the English language. I like to use it correctly.
@81 No worries. I’m an englush teecher.
Note to self:
1. comments here are full of shit
2. it’s like twitter, only longer and there’s a grammar cop
s/englush/english/
There’s actually two. Though, I’m what’s called a grammar nazi.
Also, Marilyn, wouldn’t it be improper grammar? Not poor grammar? Or is my grade in English showing?
#81,83
3. grammar cop comes with a tag team
@84
indeed.
@73
Let’s make lemmings aid!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/386547224_c47332fbc1.jpg
Someone put E-Hero out of his/her misery! You absolutely must be a tweaker to ramble on the way you do!
@Kevin get well, and use Ducolate when using Vicoden (which causes constipation), then you will be happy and move your bowels!
@83: Either way is acceptable.
@82-85
It’s SPELLING NAZI. The grammar shit is just an added bonus.
@89 (and everybody else):
Here you call me the Spelling Nazi. At work I am called the “Word Nerd”. I started a Word of the Day mailing list at work because I found my co-workers vocabulary lacking. Today’s word was “schadenfreude” (in case you don’t know, that means “satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else’s misfortune”). I mentioned that is was German, derived from the words “Schaden” for “harm” and “Freude” for “joy”. I then received an email from one of the many people on the list with a sense of humor, who replied:
“Cassenwuerdenerde”
Origin: 2009
Cassen=Case
Wuerde=word
Nerde=nerd
Thought you might find that interesting.
@90
What’s that mailing list? I’d like to join because I would like my vocabulary increased for the SAT (which I’m taking in 2 months, woohoo!)
Second, I doubt anyone on there has seen Avenue Q?
“Don’t you feel all warm and cozy, watching people out in the rain?”
Disclaimer: I may have butchered that, it’s been more than a year since I last heard that song.
@91: I am going to see Avenue Q on the 24th. I am already very familiar with the soundtrack, including Schadenfreude and The Internet is for Porn.
Also, the mailing list is just for my co-workers right now. And I forgot to mention that my last name is “Case”, which explains the first part of the word my co-worker made up.
@92
darn, that mailing list could get so much more traffic around SAT season (anytime not summer, peaking for about the week before an SAT test is given).
I’m interested as to what issues I have… Perhaps old Rolling Stones? Those are worth money.
What’s Vloggerheads?
Who is “Nalts”?
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