Comments on: How Will The Mainstream Laggard Audience Navigate Online Video?

By: JimmerSD

JimmerSD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:40:17 +0000

@24 I think you have Jim confused with Jim here Nalts

By: colleagueofnalts

colleagueofnalts — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:18:51 +0000

@18 Oh he did…he did indeed!

By: somecallmejim

somecallmejim — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:32:11 +0000

@25,

Nalts probably has a few kids he could send along with the hats.

@24

That’s a big 10-4. Is your address still “123 Any Street”, or do I need to update my Rolodex?

By: Marilyn

Marilyn — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:04:27 +0000

@ 24: Seriously? I could actually do that. You know I have quite a command of the English language. I’ve always wanted to write a book. Just not about you.

I’d have to get more than hats for compensation, though.

By: Nalts

Nalts — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:48:41 +0000

@19- sorry your comment got stuck in the moderate cue. Really good points. Oddly I had been checking Alexa because I had the sense that views have hit a plateau. I think maybe the political videos have sucked away some of the views that might otherwise go to others.

@22- Marilyn- if you take all of these posts and turn it into a book I’ll get you an assload of hats.

@23- Steal the lead boots and send ‘em to me postage due.

By: somecallmejim

somecallmejim — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:52:37 +0000

PopTub’s not bad. I like it, and am growing more fond of it daily, but I didn’t immediately fall in love with it, like I have with some other channels.

I think it’s important if they don’t want to be shunned by all of us long time tubers that they remember our importance. There are a lot of us who have been around for a couple years, and run in the 1500-5000 subscriber range, and a lot of the time we get ignored in favor of the “hot shots” with tens of thousands of subs, just because they have more subs. If they promote videos based on quality and not solely on subscriber bases, they’ll have a lot more happy viewers.

Oh, and put me on the show LOL

By: Marilyn

Marilyn — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:49:10 +0000

How do I get a free Nalts hat?

By: sukatra

sukatra — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:51:46 +0000

I don’t care if you already gave them all away. Suck it up and buy some more. You may have four kids but I don’t have a job. Who’s the bigger loser here? Ordinarily I’d say you but for the purposes of this mission, it’s me.

By: nalts

nalts — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:09:41 +0000

@7 and @11 and @15 have some interesting points YouTube should read. Tough challenge for them- attract mainstream without losing the hardcore folks. And balancing amateurs with pros.

By: Over9000

Over9000 — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:53:07 +0000

Resistance to commercialization is an easily disproved argument.

Poptub dropped onto YouTube on the exact same commercial parachute as sethcomedy. They were received differently because the goals, concepts and execution behind one channel sucked and the other didn’t. Did I win a point?
http://www.youtube.com/sethcomedy

It is important to keep reminding the “screenpoopers” at Poptub that they suck because they appear to have no idea how much the feature slots that are being squandered on them would be worth to a talented video maker and they attribute the spoon-fed views they are being given to themselves having talent and taste.

It doesn’t matter if Poptub intends to leap over the most discussed (hard-core) list straight onto the most viewed (laggard) list by using editor features, no one cares, YouTube’s metrics are FUBAR. The only consistent way onto the most viewed pages is by gaming YouTube in one way or another.

This may be starting to bite YouTube itself. When the same 12 gamers are at the top of YouTube’s most viewed page every day spouting the exact same shit, people are bound to get bored and tune out.

I am no expert, so someone double check the Alexa charts for YouTube (switch to max to see the fall-off in growth).

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/youtube.com

“Page Views” appears to have plateaued and “Reach” appears to have dropped in the last 3 months.

YouTube oddly (preemptively?) released its July 2008 Comscore figures that showed that it was still King of the Hill, but if the site has stopped growing then this metamorphosis into being a major commercially viable media player is nothing more than an unaffordable pipe dream that will disappear in the face of people’s “been there, seen that” attitude towards YouTube.

http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=2444

Sometimes the light that you see at the end of a tunnel is an oncoming train.