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	<title>Comments on: Ouch. The Fine Line Between &#8220;Storytelling&#8221; and Inauthenticity</title>
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		<title>By: bnessel1973</title>
		<link>http://willvideoforfood.com/2007/04/23/ouch-the-fine-line-between-storytelling-and-inauthenticity/comment-page-1/#comment-4649</link>
		<dc:creator>bnessel1973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem lies in the audience.  So many YouTubers are Vloggers who use YouTube as their confessional, their therapy, or their means for social interaction.  Because of this, they assume everyone is using it in that way - so when you use it as a means to express yourself creatively, through fiction, they can&#039;t relate.

Another factor is that many, if not most, of the people who do attempt fiction, or comedy, or satire, are unconvincing and their videos simply aren&#039;t very good.  So, when a Nalts creates satire (and does it well), people automatically take it seriously.  When they find out it wasn&#039;t reality, they are angry because they feel like they&#039;ve been had, instead of appreciating that it was a skillfully crafted production.

I was very surprised at the reaction to your Renetto videos.  I suppose I&#039;m equally as surprised at the disdain people feel for Renetto.  It&#039;s the down side of YouTube, I guess, because people feel that they have some form of ownership in your life just because they clicked a subscribe button.  And, it seems that once you hit a certain number of subscribers, the community wants to knock you off your pedestal - as seems to be the case with Renetto.

I&#039;ve enjoyed (and watched... sadly enough) all of your videos.  I appreciate them for their simplicity and impeccable execution.  It seems you&#039;re reinventing yourself lately, and I&#039;ve enjoyed watching it.  But, it will be equally interesting to see how it will be received in the months to come.  The community doesn&#039;t respond well to reinvention.  They like you to fit in the box you came in.  I hope they&#039;ll continue supporting you as you venture out of that box.  I know I will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem lies in the audience.  So many YouTubers are Vloggers who use YouTube as their confessional, their therapy, or their means for social interaction.  Because of this, they assume everyone is using it in that way &#8211; so when you use it as a means to express yourself creatively, through fiction, they can&#8217;t relate.</p>
<p>Another factor is that many, if not most, of the people who do attempt fiction, or comedy, or satire, are unconvincing and their videos simply aren&#8217;t very good.  So, when a Nalts creates satire (and does it well), people automatically take it seriously.  When they find out it wasn&#8217;t reality, they are angry because they feel like they&#8217;ve been had, instead of appreciating that it was a skillfully crafted production.</p>
<p>I was very surprised at the reaction to your Renetto videos.  I suppose I&#8217;m equally as surprised at the disdain people feel for Renetto.  It&#8217;s the down side of YouTube, I guess, because people feel that they have some form of ownership in your life just because they clicked a subscribe button.  And, it seems that once you hit a certain number of subscribers, the community wants to knock you off your pedestal &#8211; as seems to be the case with Renetto.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed (and watched&#8230; sadly enough) all of your videos.  I appreciate them for their simplicity and impeccable execution.  It seems you&#8217;re reinventing yourself lately, and I&#8217;ve enjoyed watching it.  But, it will be equally interesting to see how it will be received in the months to come.  The community doesn&#8217;t respond well to reinvention.  They like you to fit in the box you came in.  I hope they&#8217;ll continue supporting you as you venture out of that box.  I know I will.</p>
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		<title>By: marquisdejolie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marquisdejolie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister recently poisoned my puppy with speed. A puppy on speed is an ugly, ugly sight. After two hospitalizations, a cathater and much sedation, the puppy survived. I took a few days off (with the puppy) to see my grandkids in Dallas and when I got back I found my mother had heard a minor leak in a toilet, ripped out the plumbing, flooded the house, pissed off the local water company, had the water to the entire house shut off, ruined a couple of my shirts cleaning up the flood she caused and stunk up the house with standing shit and urine. Who needs fiction when one lives with halfwits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister recently poisoned my puppy with speed. A puppy on speed is an ugly, ugly sight. After two hospitalizations, a cathater and much sedation, the puppy survived. I took a few days off (with the puppy) to see my grandkids in Dallas and when I got back I found my mother had heard a minor leak in a toilet, ripped out the plumbing, flooded the house, pissed off the local water company, had the water to the entire house shut off, ruined a couple of my shirts cleaning up the flood she caused and stunk up the house with standing shit and urine. Who needs fiction when one lives with halfwits?</p>
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		<title>By: VelvetElvis01</title>
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		<dc:creator>VelvetElvis01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of people who had negative feelings about this series of videos feel that they were left out &amp; made to feel foolish. They were not in on the joke, unlike the Spencer videos (where they were in on the joke and could laugh at the people being pranked).

I wonder how many of the people who had negative feelings about this series of videos watch so called “reality TV” (idol, big brother, survivor) where they have the feeling that they are “behind the scenes” or “in the know” and yet are still at the whim of clever editing.
 
I like your work, its intelligent &amp; bold and always interesting, something I wouldn’t say about the majority of TV shows. 

Your “fictional” videos always have the 3 keys of a good magic act, the Pledge, the Turn, and the Prestige. The Pledge offers the audience assurances that nothing funny is going on (please shuffle the cards yourself; nothing up my sleeve, etc.). The Turn is the moment when something extraordinary happens (and the handkerchief is gone!). The third act, the Prestige, seals the deal—brings the handkerchief back.

Keep up the magic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of people who had negative feelings about this series of videos feel that they were left out &amp; made to feel foolish. They were not in on the joke, unlike the Spencer videos (where they were in on the joke and could laugh at the people being pranked).</p>
<p>I wonder how many of the people who had negative feelings about this series of videos watch so called “reality TV” (idol, big brother, survivor) where they have the feeling that they are “behind the scenes” or “in the know” and yet are still at the whim of clever editing.</p>
<p>I like your work, its intelligent &amp; bold and always interesting, something I wouldn’t say about the majority of TV shows. </p>
<p>Your “fictional” videos always have the 3 keys of a good magic act, the Pledge, the Turn, and the Prestige. The Pledge offers the audience assurances that nothing funny is going on (please shuffle the cards yourself; nothing up my sleeve, etc.). The Turn is the moment when something extraordinary happens (and the handkerchief is gone!). The third act, the Prestige, seals the deal—brings the handkerchief back.</p>
<p>Keep up the magic.</p>
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		<title>By: BrYanwithaY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrYanwithaY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, I never thought the renetto thing was real...I don&#039;t see why people would think that :P</description>
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		<title>By: BrYanwithaY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrYanwithaY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>absolutely no fiction.  If I thought that you, renetto, iChannel, or others were portraying anything other than absoulte reality, I wouldn&#039;t watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolutely no fiction.  If I thought that you, renetto, iChannel, or others were portraying anything other than absoulte reality, I wouldn&#8217;t watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Nosepickerrr</title>
		<link>http://willvideoforfood.com/2007/04/23/ouch-the-fine-line-between-storytelling-and-inauthenticity/comment-page-1/#comment-4681</link>
		<dc:creator>Nosepickerrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nalts..I think the whole &quot;trick,&quot; &quot;Tease.&quot; Whatever people want to call it...It was awesome! I think most people would agree when I say your videos are funny and eye catching. Its a good laugh when needed. Now if people seriously unsubscribed to you &#039;cause of the &#039;joke&#039;, screw them! They might have unsubscribed...but they are still watching..ill bet money. I want to seee more TRICKS! Hah.  

Ps...I don&#039;t think the baldness looks that bad! ;]

Later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nalts..I think the whole &#8220;trick,&#8221; &#8220;Tease.&#8221; Whatever people want to call it&#8230;It was awesome! I think most people would agree when I say your videos are funny and eye catching. Its a good laugh when needed. Now if people seriously unsubscribed to you &#8217;cause of the &#8216;joke&#8217;, screw them! They might have unsubscribed&#8230;but they are still watching..ill bet money. I want to seee more TRICKS! Hah.  </p>
<p>Ps&#8230;I don&#8217;t think the baldness looks that bad! ;]</p>
<p>Later</p>
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		<title>By: nalts</title>
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		<dc:creator>nalts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incredible comments- just had a chance to read them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredible comments- just had a chance to read them all.</p>
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		<title>By: marksajen</title>
		<link>http://willvideoforfood.com/2007/04/23/ouch-the-fine-line-between-storytelling-and-inauthenticity/comment-page-1/#comment-4679</link>
		<dc:creator>marksajen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um -- Isn&#039;t everything on TV and the Internet real?
&quot;I saw it on The Daily Show .....so of course it&#039;s true.&quot; or &quot;I read it on the Internets .... it has to be a fact.&quot; Seriously people smarten up. 

The Internet  &amp; Internet &quot;communities&quot; are not (necessarily) reality. They just aren&#039;t. Even if you are being genuine and truthful and honest all the time, how the hell would I know? If that makes a cynic, so be it.

My rule of thumb: assume people are full of poop all the time unless and until they prove otherwise. But, like Oprah says &quot;Everybody poops.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um &#8212; Isn&#8217;t everything on TV and the Internet real?<br />
&#8220;I saw it on The Daily Show &#8230;..so of course it&#8217;s true.&#8221; or &#8220;I read it on the Internets &#8230;. it has to be a fact.&#8221; Seriously people smarten up. </p>
<p>The Internet  &amp; Internet &#8220;communities&#8221; are not (necessarily) reality. They just aren&#8217;t. Even if you are being genuine and truthful and honest all the time, how the hell would I know? If that makes a cynic, so be it.</p>
<p>My rule of thumb: assume people are full of poop all the time unless and until they prove otherwise. But, like Oprah says &#8220;Everybody poops.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sadvipran</title>
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		<dc:creator>sadvipran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i made a ficticious response that i was hilarious.  nalts hasn&#039;t approved it yet though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i made a ficticious response that i was hilarious.  nalts hasn&#8217;t approved it yet though?</p>
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		<title>By: SlatersGarage</title>
		<link>http://willvideoforfood.com/2007/04/23/ouch-the-fine-line-between-storytelling-and-inauthenticity/comment-page-1/#comment-4684</link>
		<dc:creator>SlatersGarage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In advertising, we learn that if you&#039;re talking to someone, you&#039;re decidedly NOT talking to someone else.  When you define your target audience, you also define who your target is NOT.  

One must post videos for the people who WATCH, not the people who DON&#039;T watch.  I, for one, am a relatively new YouTuber, and I don&#039;t always know whether the stuff I see is real, or fiction, or a bit of both... and it doesn&#039;t matter.  I like what I watch, and I don&#039;t watch what I don&#039;t like.  I don&#039;t take it personally if I&#039;ve been &quot;had.&quot;  

Item:  When we say &quot;the community&quot; makes the rules, that&#039;s fine, but as a filmmaker, am I not a part of said community?  And if so, then am I not entitled to contribute to the online legislature too, and make some rules of my own? 

Rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In advertising, we learn that if you&#8217;re talking to someone, you&#8217;re decidedly NOT talking to someone else.  When you define your target audience, you also define who your target is NOT.  </p>
<p>One must post videos for the people who WATCH, not the people who DON&#8217;T watch.  I, for one, am a relatively new YouTuber, and I don&#8217;t always know whether the stuff I see is real, or fiction, or a bit of both&#8230; and it doesn&#8217;t matter.  I like what I watch, and I don&#8217;t watch what I don&#8217;t like.  I don&#8217;t take it personally if I&#8217;ve been &#8220;had.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Item:  When we say &#8220;the community&#8221; makes the rules, that&#8217;s fine, but as a filmmaker, am I not a part of said community?  And if so, then am I not entitled to contribute to the online legislature too, and make some rules of my own? </p>
<p>Rock on!</p>
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